A Spiritual Journey: A Look into Your Masculine and Feminine Sides with Johnson Chong, Episode 131

Are you on a spiritual journey right now? Chances are, if you are in your 30s or 40s, you have been on a spiritual journey of some sort, and maybe you still are going through the motions of it. 

As for me, my spiritual journey started here in Australia due to the “at-home time” I had during the pandemic so I had the space to dig deep. As for many of us, it caused us to pause and reevaluate our purpose in life. It was my desire to reconnect with my intuition and keep my head above the water if I wanted to make progress on my business. 

This brings me to this week’s guest, Johnson Chong, the best-selling and award-winning author of Sage Sapien: From Karma to Dharma. Johnson is passionate about creating a bridge between ancient wisdom, energy medicine, and direct modern application. His unique experiences offer a profoundly healing self-discovery experience, followed by very practical and actionable steps to create lasting change. 

With his background as a teacher who trains yoga teachers and pilates teachers, Johnson has an expansive knowledge of the physical body and how the psyche can create stagnation on all levels – physical, mental, emotional, and energetic.

Today, Johnson shares his shamanic wisdom to help us keep it all together in all the roles that we are playing in life – in the most authentic way possible. Whether you’re a child of parents who are also on their own spiritual journey or maybe you have conflicting beliefs, this is definitely a great episode for you to listen to. 

Gain an appreciation for both your feminine and masculine sides and learn to reconnect with them. Share this with someone else who is also curious about the idea of doing inner work and its benefits on your life. 

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Johnson Chong’s Biography

Johnson Chong is the best-selling and award-winning author of Sage Sapien: From Karma to Dharma. He is also a TedX Speaker, shaman, and the founder of Sage Sapien Soul Academy where he trains aspiring meditation and breathwork teachers. 

Through the synthesis of the most applicable teachings of yoga, meditation, breathwork, coaching, and shamanic healing, Johnson’s training programs are designed to help people quiet the mind, awaken the heart, and free themselves of the roadblocks that keep them from living more authentically and joyfully. 

Johnson has spoken and led workshops at companies like Unilever, Facebook, Nike, Macquarie, Insight Timer, UBS, UOB, and more. Johnson is a native New Yorker, has lived on three continents, and is currently based in Sydney, Australia. 


Mental state: Modern people have to make use of technology in healthy ways. To keep his mental state, Johnson uses a pulsed electromagnetic frequency device, which mirrors back high-functioning brainwave states. 

Spirituality: Your spiritual path is personal and one with huge benefits that can span generations. In my case, having this business led me to seek my spiritual path. 

Balance: You have both feminine and masculine energies inside of you and both are equally important. Navigating life requires both sides of you and if you are too tilted in one direction, your kids may compensate in the opposite to maintain the balance in your home.

Taking risks: You can search for a safe job, choice, or relationship but then you may miss out on the adventure of taking a risk – and the risk could sometimes mean being true to yourself.

Imagination: Deciding to be a mom was the biggest risk I took. Learning to reawaken my imagination and stay true to myself was essential in navigating all the ups and downs.

Resilience: We have all experienced some level of discomfort, pain, or things that didn’t turn out the way we wanted. And so, you have to practice getting good at knowing how to be okay in the storm and weather it. 

Focus: When you learn to focus your attention on the moment or on the different types of sensations in your body, you’re learning extreme focus, which is necessary for all things in life.

Purpose: We have to go back and sit with all of the pain, the hurt, as well as the things we never wanted and can’t quite fully accept in the past before we can get to our life purpose. In order to enjoy more of life, you have to get deep and dirty in it. 

Lower and upper worlds: The spiritual journey is not just up there but also down there. From a shamanic perspective, you go into the lower world first before you go up into the upper world.

Sacred feminine: When we’re talking about meeting certain things within ourselves that are darker or we want to hide away, that’s the sacred feminine. We’re not wanting to confront that and we’re denying a part of ourselves.

Yin Yang: Masculine and feminine (not male and female) energies are more of the essence of a plus and a minus charge – masculine, being the plus charge of the battery; and feminine, as the minus charge of the battery. Both are necessary to make the battery work. 

(+) energy: Masculine energy is a giving, forward-giving energy. It’s about direction. It is structured, mathematical, and philosophical. 

(–) energy: Feminine energy is wild, creative, sexual energy which you can channel into art or an enlightened state.

Chaos: Anything that’s chaotic and destroys the norm, or the way that we perceive the norm is the feminine force. We associate that as bad, but it’s part of nature, just like a hurricane.

Business: A masculine force is being a high achiever. But the world’s top billionaires have experienced great losses. That’s them risking diving into the feminine, which is the great unknown, and then they come back up. 

Rest: When the minus comes down, you now have the opportunity to rest, restore, read, and do things that are nourishing for yourself. It’s winter break. 

Flow: Part of the spiritual journey is understanding these waves within ourselves, and then expressing that. 

Balance: Our job as human beings is to find the balance between masculine energy and feminine energy.

Parents: A lot of immigrant families have a very masculine driving force. And so the kids have to have a structured life. So they have to learn to be okay with being vulnerable in public and being a bit messy. 

Toxic family: A toxic relationship is a toxic relationship, sometimes, you have to end it. We can’t judge trauma because you never know how that inspires someone else. 

Pain: If you swallow your pain up and pretend it’s not there, it’s going to build into something toxic and your children may have to create some distance from you.

Service: Every person, whatever their unique story is, has the capacity to make a choice of how to deal with their pain. You can take your pain and turn it into service and inspire you to help others.

If you enjoyed this conversation, check out these episodes with similar themes:

Michael A. Blunt Teaches How to Attain Peace and Success by Deprogramming Your Limiting Beliefs, Episode 127

Dr. Brad Elphinstone Talks About How to Stop Living Your Life On Autopilot Through Self-Determination, Equanimity, and Non-Attachment, Episode 100

Links to continue to learn from:

Website: www.johnsonchong.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnsonchong_sagesapien

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sagesapien

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnson-chong-9475b848/


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Melissa Llarena

Melissa Llarena is an author, imagination coach, consultant, speaker, and contributor to ForbesWomen articles that have garnered 4 million + views. She is also the host of Unimaginable Wellness, the podcast for entrepreneurs, founders, and creators who are also moms. Featured guests include GaryVee and Beth Comstock. Melissa holds a psychology degree from New York University, an MBA from the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth, and a Transformational Coaching Academy certificate. She is training to become a meditation practitioner. Melissa lives in Austin, Texas, with her husband and three sons. Visit www.fertileideas.com.

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